[Olsr-users] Hello from Pirate Party Sweden

Erik Lönroth (spam-protected)
Sat Nov 6 12:08:50 CET 2010

Hello all and thanx for all good advices!

We have recognized the problems with respect the the  "baloon".

* A weather ballon will explode within the hour (because of expansion)
* A baloon drifts away.
* The payload of the baloon is dangerous to get in the head when it falls down.
* A "long term" baloon will hav powering issues.
* A ballon can easiliy break.

But, those problems are in phase 2.

What we want to have real help with, is how to:

1. Design the olsrd solution as it will be provided by a set of wifi
routers. Some of them on baloons.
2. Help packaging olsr software to make it "a single click"
installation for clients that can download this software from the
3. General help with the concept as whole. Our ambitions are to
provide a open network for as many as possible. We don't know how far
we can get, but we will make it as far as we can.

Currently, We have obtained a relatively cheap hardware stack:

GROUND ANTENNA: (http://www.microbarn.com/details.aspx?rid=102407)

The "AIRBORN ANTENNA" will probably have to be alot smaller/lighter,
as the one above is 3.5kg. Any suggestions?

Weŕe thinking about planting a "ground" mesh intially, but we are
unsure of how this is best achieved. We want the network to be

This week, we will update the openWRT homepage with a very easy to
follow guide how to get olsr up and running. Possibly patching the
packages for ubuntu and openWRT to make the installations trivial.
Thats a good start in order to make develoment and deployment simplistic.


On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Robert Keyes <(spam-protected)> wrote:
> Regarding a balloon mesh node:
> A problem with balloons is the drift caused by wind. Guy-wires (tethers)
> can help fix this, but a more interesting idea is to harness the 'Magnus
> Effect'. This effect is where the attachment of wind-turbine blades to the
> balloon will keep it stable, while also potentially providing power.
> The most appropriate antenna to use on a balloon-node will change with the
> elevation (or is 'altitude' the appropriate word?) of the balloon, and
> also the node's intended purpose. You may find that the node 'hears' too
> many signals at such a height. For this reason, you may want to choose
> 802.11A at 5 Ghz instead of 802.11g at 2.4 Ghz. I am not sure if the 5 Ghz
> band is allocated for WiFi in your country.
> When constructing the node, make sure it is safe from lightning,
> temperature extremes, wind, sun, and birds(!). There may be requirements
> for notification of air-traffic-control, and the placement of a lighted
> beacon (a blinking strobe light) on the node in order to minimize the
> danger to aircraft. In areas close to airports, there is often prohibition
> of any structure over 50 meters or so, and this may apply to your balloon.
> Some amateur radio operators have placed repeaters in balloons for
> short-term use. You may want to consult with these people.
> Good Luck!
> -Bob
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